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Titel: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 18 Juni 2018, 12:03:08
I want to start this thread to help anyone with identifying Kriegsmarine Admirals from photos.
If you need help with unknown Admirals please post them here.
I also have a number of photos with unknown Admirals I need help with (I will be posting them here), so if you have any idea who they might be please share your thoughts.
Danke!
Here is the translation to german from google translate:
"Ich möchte diesen Thread starten, um jemandem mit der Identifizierung von Kriegsmarine Admirals aus Fotos zu helfen.
Wenn du Hilfe bei unbekannten Admiralen brauchst, bitte poste sie hier.
Ich habe auch eine Reihe von Fotos mit unbekannten Admiralen, mit denen ich Hilfe brauche (ich werde sie hier veröffentlichen), also wenn du eine Ahnung hast, wer sie sein könnten, teile uns bitte deine Gedanken mit."
P.S. My german is very poor so I prefer to write in english.
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 18 Juni 2018, 12:05:08
Konteradmiral #1
To start the thread...
Who is this Konteradmiral?
(https://s15.postimg.cc/8qp575qcb/Unknown1.png)
Danke!
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Hägar am 18 Juni 2018, 14:33:22
Thanks for this offer, Karlo

Sorry for not being able to support identifying the KAdm being seen in #2.

But there is a photo that may be solved by your knowledge.
My guess is Hetz (CO Z34), Johannesson (SO 4.DD flotilla), and Kreisch (FdZ).
Would you agree?

Regards - Hägar
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 18 Juni 2018, 18:04:55
Zitat von: Hägar am 18 Juni 2018, 14:33:22
Thanks for this offer, Karlo

Sorry for not being able to support identifying the KAdm being seen in #2.

But there is a photo that may be solved by your knowledge.
My guess is Hetz (CO Z34), Johannesson (SO 4.DD flotilla), and Kreisch (FdZ).
Would you agree?

Regards - Hägar
Yes indeed, I agree.
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 19 Juni 2018, 01:06:49
Konteradmiral #2
Anyone recognise this Konteradmiral?
Danke
(https://s15.postimg.cc/5vvclxdq3/Unknown2.png)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 19 Juni 2018, 22:21:48
Please share you thoughts on the photos I post.
Admiral #3
Who is this? I don't know his exact rank so I will use the generic term "admiral".
The date is 01 November 1939.
Danke
(https://s33.postimg.cc/5s2j8ks0f/Unknown3.png)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 20 Juni 2018, 19:56:05
Konteradmiral #4 = Identified as Friedrich-Wilhelm Fleischer
Who is this Konteradmiral?
This photo is taken in a conference room (we can also see von Brauchitsch (left?), Hitler, Keitel, Jodl and Hans-Erich Voss behind the unknown Konteradmiral).
Danke!
(https://s33.postimg.cc/ke3nqxr4f/Unknown4.png)
(https://s33.postimg.cc/a418rr6en/image.jpg)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 22 Juni 2018, 15:24:53
Still nothing? Ok... let's move on
Unknown Admiral #5
Who is this? His rank is full Admiral.
To me he looks like Conrad Albrecht. Does anyone agree?
(https://s8.postimg.cc/8inhvhkmt/Unknown5.png)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Urs Heßling am 22 Juni 2018, 18:01:59
moin,

Zitat von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 20 Juni 2018, 19:56:05
Who is this Konteradmiral?
Könnte es H.'s Adjutant Karl-Jesko v. Puttkamer sein (die Haarfarbe ist aber recht dunkel) ?

Gruß, Urs
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 22 Juni 2018, 19:05:03
Zitat von: Urs Heßling am 22 Juni 2018, 18:01:59
moin,

Zitat von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 20 Juni 2018, 19:56:05
Who is this Konteradmiral?
Könnte es H.'s Adjutant Karl-Jesko v. Puttkamer sein (die Haarfarbe ist aber recht dunkel) ?

Gruß, Urs
Hallo, I think it is not Puttkamer, he had blonde hair.
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Götz von Berlichingen am 22 Juni 2018, 22:41:01
Zitat von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 20 Juni 2018, 19:56:05
Konteradmiral #4
Who is this Konteradmiral?
This photo is taken in a conference room (we can also see von Brauchitsch (left?), Hitler, Keitel, Jodl and Hans-Erich Voss behind the unknown Konteradmiral).

Theodor Krancke?
https://ww2gravestone.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/1ce3aa9cd807b8e5f3e94dfa14f1bd9b-200x300.jpg?79132e&79132e
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Urs Heßling am 22 Juni 2018, 23:09:00
moin,

Zitat von: Götz von Berlichingen am 22 Juni 2018, 22:41:01
Theodor Krancke?
Da melde ich Zweifel an.
a. Krancke trug, wenn die Bilder stimmen, seinen Scheitel rechts (in Bildern: links).
b. Bei der Körperhaltung des KAdm müßte man mM das Ritterkreuz sehen (wenn er eins hatte).

Gruß, Urs


P.S.
Hier gibt es ein Foto, das meiner Meinung nach dieselbe Szene zeigt :
Konteradmiral (https://www.google.com/search?q=hitler+berghof+raeder+keitel&client=firefox-b&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi08_z3pejbAhVGJ5oKHTYsBQkQ7AkIMg&biw=1326&bih=584#imgrc=uLZwYZJ2utnheM:)
Der Admiral ist falsch als Raeder identifiziert, ist aber besser zu erkennen.
Er trägt einen relativ großen (Siegel?)Ring an der linken Hand.
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Götz von Berlichingen am 23 Juni 2018, 01:45:40
Zitat von: Urs Heßling am 22 Juni 2018, 23:09:00Hier gibt es ein Foto, das meiner Meinung nach dieselbe Szene zeigt :
Konteradmiral (https://www.google.com/search?q=hitler+berghof+raeder+keitel&client=firefox-b&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi08_z3pejbAhVGJ5oKHTYsBQkQ7AkIMg&biw=1326&bih=584#imgrc=uLZwYZJ2utnheM:)
Der Admiral ist falsch als Raeder identifiziert, ist aber besser zu erkennen.
Er trägt einen relativ großen (Siegel?)Ring an der linken Hand.

Wenn wenigstens die Datierung des IWM stimmen sollte (Juli 1940), so kann der Kapitän zur See aber wahrscheinlich nicht Hans Erich Voß sein (der war erst ab 01.03.1943 als ständiger Vertreter des ObdM im FHQ).
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans-Erich_Voss

Urs hat ja wohl die Rangdienstlisten.  :angel:
Da müßte man dann schauen, wer im Juli 1940 Konteradmiral war und dienstlich im FHQ...  :-D
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 23 Juni 2018, 10:20:28
The other Navy Officer is 100% Hans-Erich Voss. The date of the photo given by the source is incorrect then.
To me the Unknown Konteradmiral #4 looks like Friedrich-Wilhelm Fleischer?
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 23 Juni 2018, 18:06:25
Zitat von: Urs Heßling am 22 Juni 2018, 23:09:00
moin,

Zitat von: Götz von Berlichingen am 22 Juni 2018, 22:41:01
Theodor Krancke?
Da melde ich Zweifel an.
a. Krancke trug, wenn die Bilder stimmen, seinen Scheitel rechts (in Bildern: links).
b. Bei der Körperhaltung des KAdm müßte man mM das Ritterkreuz sehen (wenn er eins hatte).

Gruß, Urs


P.S.
Hier gibt es ein Foto, das meiner Meinung nach dieselbe Szene zeigt :
Konteradmiral (https://www.google.com/search?q=hitler+berghof+raeder+keitel&client=firefox-b&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi08_z3pejbAhVGJ5oKHTYsBQkQ7AkIMg&biw=1326&bih=584#imgrc=uLZwYZJ2utnheM:)
Der Admiral ist falsch als Raeder identifiziert, ist aber besser zu erkennen.
Er trägt einen relativ großen (Siegel?)Ring an der linken Hand.
Great photo that you found Urs!
I asked a friend and we both agreed Konteradmiral #4 (on that photo) is Friedrich-Wilhelm Fleischer (later Admiral).
Gruß, Karlo
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Alex Shenec am 24 Juni 2018, 08:31:19
Hallo.

Zitat von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 23 Juni 2018, 18:06:25
I asked a friend and we both agreed Konteradmiral #4 (on that photo) is Friedrich-Wilhelm Fleischer (later Admiral).
Gruß, Karlo

Hmmmm...
Ich bin nicht überzeugt, dass es Fleischer ist.

Schöne Grüße

Alex
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 24 Juni 2018, 10:30:11
Zitat von: Alex Shenec am 24 Juni 2018, 08:31:19
Hallo.

Zitat von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 23 Juni 2018, 18:06:25
I asked a friend and we both agreed Konteradmiral #4 (on that photo) is Friedrich-Wilhelm Fleischer (later Admiral).
Gruß, Karlo

Hmmmm...
Ich bin nicht überzeugt, dass es Fleischer ist.

Schöne Grüße

Alex
I am quite sure it is. Check the photos below. Notice the hairstyle on the second photo. Did you look at the photo Urs linked? (first below).
Second and third photos show Fleischer.
(https://s15.postimg.cc/5ui8ot3nf/vvv.png)
(https://s15.postimg.cc/53piiotgr/Untitmled.png)
(https://s15.postimg.cc/4s8262i7f/Fleischer2.jpg)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 24 Juni 2018, 13:07:12
Unknown Konteradmiral #6
I have several photos with this Konteradmiral and can't figure out who he is.
He is always in the company of Hans-Georg von Friedeburg and Karl Doenitz, so I think he might have something to do with U-boats.
Here are some Konteradmirale that were in the staff of the U-boat or Torpedo commands:

Konteradmiral Ernst Kratzenberg, Chef des Amtsgruppe U-Bootswesen (Skl U)
Konteradmiral Eberhard Godt, Chef des Operationsabteilung (b.d.U.op)
Konteradmiral Rudolf Junker, Kommandeur des Torpedoversuchsanstalt (T.V.A.) Eckernförde
Konteradmiral Karl-Otto Gutjahr, Chef des Amt Torpedowaffe (TWa)

(https://s22.postimg.cc/ondrs1ik1/Untitleda.png)
Danke!
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 25 Juni 2018, 15:52:33
Unknown Admiral #7
Who is this?
He looks like Paul Fanger to me.
Danke
(https://s22.postimg.cc/j8nvzvdo1/Unknown7.png)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Urs Heßling am 25 Juni 2018, 18:56:22
hi,

Zitat von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 24 Juni 2018, 13:07:12
I have several photos with this Konteradmiral and can't figure out who he is.
He is always in the company of Hans-Georg von Friedeburg and Karl Doenitz, so I think he might have something to do with U-boats.
Here are some Konteradmirale that were in the staff of the U-boat or Torpedo commands:
Konteradmiral Ernst Kratzenberg, Chef des Amtsgruppe U-Bootswesen (Skl U)
Konteradmiral Eberhard Godt, Chef des Operationsabteilung (b.d.U.op)
Konteradmiral Rudolf Junker, Kommandeur des Torpedoversuchsanstalt (T.V.A.) Eckernförde
Konteradmiral Karl-Otto Gutjahr, Chef des Amt Torpedowaffe (TWa)
strike Kratzenberg and Godt from the list, the nose doen't fit.

greetings, Urs
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 25 Juni 2018, 19:54:03
Zitat von: Urs Heßling am 25 Juni 2018, 18:56:22
hi,

Zitat von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 24 Juni 2018, 13:07:12
I have several photos with this Konteradmiral and can't figure out who he is.
He is always in the company of Hans-Georg von Friedeburg and Karl Doenitz, so I think he might have something to do with U-boats.
Here are some Konteradmirale that were in the staff of the U-boat or Torpedo commands:
Konteradmiral Ernst Kratzenberg, Chef des Amtsgruppe U-Bootswesen (Skl U)
Konteradmiral Eberhard Godt, Chef des Operationsabteilung (b.d.U.op)
Konteradmiral Rudolf Junker, Kommandeur des Torpedoversuchsanstalt (T.V.A.) Eckernförde
Konteradmiral Karl-Otto Gutjahr, Chef des Amt Torpedowaffe (TWa)
strike Kratzenberg and Godt from the list, the nose doen't fit.

greetings, Urs
I agree Urs, but it is possible that the unknown Konteradmiral is someone else. Other than the 4 I mentioned above.
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 27 Juni 2018, 17:01:33
Unknown Konteradmirale #8
Here we have 2 unknown Konteradmirale (number 1 and 3). Any ideas who they are?
Also, is number 2 Hubert Schmundt?
Number 4 is Karl Dönitz
Danke
(https://s33.postimg.cc/5dnyxpoz3/Unknown8.png)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 28 Juni 2018, 21:19:58
Unknown Vizeadmiral #9 = Identified as Günther Krause
Who is this?
Danke
(https://s8.postimg.cc/i5tchnkth/Unknown9.png)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 01 Juli 2018, 13:46:31
Unknown admiral #10
Who is this? (his admiral rank is unknown)
The photo was taken in France, August 1942.
Danke
(https://s33.postimg.cc/5kzamfznz/Unknown10.png)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Alex Shenec am 01 Juli 2018, 17:07:38
Hallo

# 9 - GÜTHER KRAUSE.

Zitat von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 28 Juni 2018, 21:19:58
Unknown Vizeadmiral #9
Who is this?
Danke
(https://s8.postimg.cc/i5tchnkth/Unknown9.png)

Schöne Grüße

Alex
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 01 Juli 2018, 23:41:06
Zitat von: Alex Shenec am 01 Juli 2018, 17:07:38
Hallo

# 9 - GÜTHER KRAUSE.

Zitat von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 28 Juni 2018, 21:19:58
Unknown Vizeadmiral #9
Who is this?
Danke


Schöne Grüße

Alex
I agree, Alex.
Thank you
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 02 Juli 2018, 23:31:19
Unknown admiral #11
Who is this?
The photo was taken in Italy between 14 and 18 March 1943.
Danke
(https://s8.postimg.cc/7lrqbl9s5/Unknown11.png)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: JensA am 03 Juli 2018, 08:33:14
I think it could be Meendsen-Bohlken - at least he was also bulky.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Meendsen-Bohlken
http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/seekrieg/km/mittelmeer/italien/mok-it.htm#MK

Jens
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Alex Shenec am 03 Juli 2018, 09:15:34
Hallo.

Zitat von: JensA am 03 Juli 2018, 08:33:14
I think it could be Meendsen-Bohlken - at least he was also bulky.
Jens

Ich bin einverstanden - Meendsen-Bohlken.
Drei Kommandeure des "Admiral Scheer" auf dem Foto. :)

Schöne Grüße

Alex
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 03 Juli 2018, 12:57:40
Hallo guys, I think it is not Meendsen-Bohlken.
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 03 Juli 2018, 18:25:26
Zitat von: Alex Shenec am 03 Juli 2018, 09:15:34
Hallo.

Zitat von: JensA am 03 Juli 2018, 08:33:14
I think it could be Meendsen-Bohlken - at least he was also bulky.
Jens

Ich bin einverstanden - Meendsen-Bohlken.
Drei Kommandeure des "Admiral Scheer" auf dem Foto. :)

Schöne Grüße

Alex
Hallo, Alex.
Wenn du mehr Fotos von Admiralen wie dieser mit Meendsen-Bohlken hast, die du gepostet hast, sende sie bitte an meine E-Mail.
Danke
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: habichtnorbert am 03 Juli 2018, 18:39:51
Hallo Herr Admiral,
bitte umgehend die sichtbare eMailadresse entfernen,
wenn unbedingt, dann bitte per PN versenden,

:MG:
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 04 Juli 2018, 11:00:44
Unknown admiral #12
Who is this?
Could it be Heinrich Ancker?
Danke
(https://s22.postimg.cc/rt84as38x/Unknown12a.png)
(https://s22.postimg.cc/felcadjfl/Unknown12.png)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Urs Heßling am 04 Juli 2018, 13:19:35
hi,

Zitat von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 24 Juni 2018, 13:07:12
Unknown Konteradmiral #6  I have several photos with this Konteradmiral and can't figure out who he is.
He is always in the company of Hans-Georg von Friedeburg and Karl Doenitz,
Zitat von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 27 Juni 2018, 17:01:33
Unknown Konteradmirale #8
Here we have 2 unknown Konteradmirale (number 1 and 3). Any ideas who they are?
I think those pictures show the same man : #6 and #8/3

Gruß, Urs
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 05 Juli 2018, 16:24:07
Unknown admiral #13
Who is this?
Photo taken in Norway, July 1943.
Danke
(https://s8.postimg.cc/xmddz7uyd/Unknown13.png)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 06 Juli 2018, 19:02:09
Unknown Vizeadmiral #14
I posted him before, do you know who he is?
Danke
(https://s15.postimg.cc/5jnfnziy3/Unknown14.png)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 08 Juli 2018, 00:48:59
Unknown admiral #15
Exact admiral rank unknown.
Danke!
(https://s22.postimg.cc/s4xucjnsx/Unknown15.png)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 09 Juli 2018, 18:07:35
Unknown Konteradmiral #16
Who is this Konteradmiral?
Possibly taken in Kiel during a firefighter drill, date unknown.
Danke!
(https://s22.postimg.cc/9j65irdkx/Untitledb.png)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 10 Juli 2018, 23:49:23
Unknown Vizeadmial #17
Who is this Vizeadmiral with Generalfeldmarschall von Brauchitsch?
The cover of the magazine reads: "Generalfeldmarschall von Brauchitsch inspects German naval forces in one of the French harbors on the Atlantic coast".
Danke!
(https://s22.postimg.cc/5b85i0jgx/Generalfeldmarschall_Walther_von_Brauchitsch_6.jpg)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 13 Juli 2018, 12:02:25
Unknown admiral #18
Who is this in the middle?
Danke!
(https://s15.postimg.cc/q04xcqbcb/IMG_1532.png)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Urs Heßling am 13 Juli 2018, 12:38:46
hi,

Following this thread I'm under the impression that your thread title is somewhat reversed, i.e that you need help with identifying Admirals  :-D

greetings, Urs
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 13 Juli 2018, 14:13:49
Zitat von: Urs Heßling am 13 Juli 2018, 12:38:46
hi,

Following this thread I'm under the impression that your thread title is somewhat reversed, i.e that you need help with identifying Admirals  :-D

greetings, Urs
Hi Urs, yes haha. I do need help also, but other memebers are free to post their photos.
These photos I post all include admirals I haven't yet identified. So someone here might be able to help me.
Greetings
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 15 Juli 2018, 12:46:36
Unknown admiral #19
Who is this? Possibly a Konteradmiral, I am not sure.
Photo taken in Norway, May 1943.
Danke
(https://s22.postimg.cc/5m3lohh4h/Unknown19.png)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 17 Juli 2018, 12:32:17
Unknown Konteradmiral #20
Who is this Konteradmiral?
Danke!
(https://s22.postimg.cc/3w0p4rioh/Unknown20.png)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 19 Juli 2018, 12:30:35
Unknown Konteradmiral #21
Who is this?
Danke!
(https://s22.postimg.cc/8n7gp4qdd/Unknown21.png)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 21 Juli 2018, 19:58:44
Unknown admirale #22
Who are the 2 unknown admirale (their exact ranks are unknown)?
1 and 2?
Danke!
(https://s15.postimg.cc/b8iofpb5n/Unknown22.png)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 24 Juli 2018, 10:46:11
Unknown Konteradmiral #23
Who is this Konteradmiral in Norway?
Danke!
(https://s8.postimg.cc/9f3542olh/Unknown23.png)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 27 Juli 2018, 13:52:50
Unknown admirale #24
Who are these two admirals in France?
Danke!
(https://s15.postimg.cc/desovn0tn/Unknown24.png)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 30 Juli 2018, 17:02:26
Unknown admiral #25
Who is this? In France.
Danke!
(https://s33.postimg.cc/ojaxvflyn/Unknown25.png)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 03 August 2018, 12:39:40
Unknown admiral #26
Who is this?
Danke!
(https://s22.postimg.cc/dtq587mo1/Unknown26.png)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Axel Niestle am 03 August 2018, 15:11:24
Hi there,

#24 left (1) looks very much like Wilhelm Marschall!

Best

Axel Niestlé
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 06 August 2018, 12:42:14
Thank you Axel. But I don't think it is Marschall.
Unknown Vizeadmiral #27
Who is this Vizeadmiral?
Danke!
(https://s15.postimg.cc/c7xomqorf/Untitled3.png)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Hägar am 08 August 2018, 16:33:33
Hello, KM Admiral

This time the other way round: Who are the admiral ranks being seen on the pictures below?
As far as is known the date should be seen as 20.04.1943 onboard TIRPITZ.

Regards - Hägar
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 09 August 2018, 00:22:41
Zitat von: Hägar am 08 August 2018, 16:33:33
Hello, KM Admiral

This time the other way round: Who are the admiral ranks being seen on the pictures below?
As far as is known the date should be seen as 20.04.1943 onboard TIRPITZ.

Regards - Hägar
Hello Hägar, great photos. Thanks for sharing!
I don't quite understand the question, do you need the ranks of the people on the photos or their names?
Also, do photos 2 and 3 show the same two officers or is it 4 different people on them?
Are the 3 photos separate or did you cut them from one, bigger photo? If so, please post the big photo so I can more easily understand their position.
I will tell you who the people on the photos are when I consult with my friend. For now, the Admiral on the right on photo 3 is Oskar Kummetz (but that is already written in your photos description).
Regards
Karlo
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Hägar am 11 August 2018, 17:47:57
Hello, KM Admiral

The cuts are from three different pictures, apparently PK photos of the same series.
What I'm interested in are the names of those people who have an admiral's rank.

Regards - Hägar
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: am 11 August 2018, 21:16:40
Auf Bild 3 dürfte Otto Ciliax (Kommandierender Admiral Marineoberkommando Norwegen ab 4. März 1943) zu sehen sein.

Deine Bildbezeichnung lautet »Kummetz+QQ_43.04.20_3«. Ich gehe davon aus, daß dies so ist, weil Du den links stehenden Herrn für Oskar Kummetz hältst. Ich glaube nicht, daß es Kummetz ist, denn ihm wurde bereits im Januar 1941 das Ritterkreuz verliehen, das der bewußte Herr aber nicht trägt - zumindest nicht sichtbar. Zudem meine ich aus einem Vergleich mit einem Bild von Kummetz schließen zu können, daß sich die Ohren von Kummetz und dem abgebildeten Offizier unterscheiden. Der Unbekannte scheint abstehendere Ohren zu haben als Kummetz. Vielleicht täuscht aber auch nur die Perspektive in dem bekannten Foto von Kummetz und dieses wurde nur "vorteilhafter" aufgenommen.

Gruß
Thomas
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Urs Heßling am 11 August 2018, 21:27:29
moin, Thomas,

Zitat von: Götz von Berlichingen am 11 August 2018, 21:16:40
Auf Bild 3 dürfte Otto Ciliax (Kommandierender Admiral Marineoberkommando Norwegen ab 4. März 1943) zu sehen sein.
Da bin ich anderer Meinung.
Argumente:
a) Ciliax sah anders aus, siehe https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Ciliax#/media/File:Otto-ciliax.jpg (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Ciliax#/media/File:Otto-ciliax.jpg)
b) Ciliax bekam nach der Durchführung "Cerberus" das Ritterkreuz (21.3.42), der Adm hier trägt keins.

Edit nach Lesen Deines Edits
Zitat von: Götz von Berlichingen am 11 August 2018, 21:16:40
Ich gehe davon aus, daß dies so ist, weil Du den links stehenden Herrn für Oskar Kummetz hältst.
Kummetz ist zweifelsfrei der rechts stehende Mann.

Gruß, Urs
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: am 11 August 2018, 21:34:34
Hallo Urs,

dann hatte ich Kummetz nicht erkannt, wenn der rechte Herr Kummetz sein sollte. Aber die Nasenpartie von Ciliax könnte auch passen:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Ciliax#/media/File:Otto-ciliax.jpg

Ich hatte Reinhards Frage offenbar mißverstanden:
Zitat von: Hägar am 08 August 2018, 16:33:33This time the other way round: Who are the admiral ranks being seen on the pictures below?
As far as is known the date should be seen as 20.04.1943 onboard TIRPITZ.

Demnach schien es mir, als wären alle Personen unbekannt. Erst in der Dateibezeichnung sah ich Kummetz' Name und dachte dann fälschlicherweise, der Herr links neben dem Ritterkreuzträger würde von Reinhard für Kummetz gehalten.

Gruß
Thomas
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 11 August 2018, 22:38:07
Hallo guys,
on photo 1 the man extreme left is Oskar Kummetz.
On photo 2 again, left is Admiral Kummetz and possibly Vizeadmiral Heinz Nordmann (Kommandierender Admiral der norwegischen Nordküste) on the right.
On photo 3, Kummetz right and again possibly Nordmann left.
Please see the 2 photos below for comparison with Nordmann and tell me what you think.
Danke
(https://s33.postimg.cc/qf5oa2jsv/Untitled2.png)
(https://s33.postimg.cc/8p3zp4lof/Untitled4.png)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 12 August 2018, 13:34:55
Unknown Konteradmiral #20 on page 3 is Hans-Herbert Stobwasser.
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Hägar am 12 August 2018, 13:49:22
Nordmann makes very much sense, and one may indeed recognize similarities to the pictures given as support for identification.

Thanks to all who spent some time on this problem.
Regards - Hägar
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Hägar am 12 August 2018, 14:45:49
Hello, dear colleagues

Which important persons do we see here?
The picture must have been taken on 17.04.1941 in Brest (onboard GNEISENAU).

Thanks in advance for dealing with the vice admiral and his entourage.
Regards - Hägar
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 12 August 2018, 14:48:33
Hello Hägar.
Great photo again! Keep them coming.
I would say it is Hans-Herbert Stobwasser (Senior-Shipyard-Director of the Kriegsmarine-Shipyard Brest (01 Dec 1940-19 May 1943).
I just wrote on page 4 that I identified him on a photo I posted before, check it out.
Regards
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Hägar am 12 August 2018, 15:00:49
Yes, Karlo, this is the same person - thank you.

By the way, checking this I also came across your #23 KAdm. in Norway.
My guess would be Boehm.

Regards - Hägar
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 12 August 2018, 15:12:04
Zitat von: Hägar am 12 August 2018, 15:00:49
Yes, Karlo, this is the same person - thank you.

By the way, checking this I also came across your #23 KAdm. in Norway.
My guess would be Boehm.

Regards - Hägar
The thing is, Boehm was already a Generaladmiral at that point, so the rank doesn't fit. The photo was taken after 27 June 1941.
Regards
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 12 August 2018, 15:14:35
Unknown Konteradmiral #28
Who is this Konteradmiral in Romania?
Danke
(https://s22.postimg.cc/jgmln5l7l/unknown.png)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Hägar am 13 August 2018, 18:02:02
Falls für jemanden von Interesse, Gruß - Hägar
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 13 August 2018, 19:31:38
Very nice Hägar! Thank you.
Karlo
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 14 August 2018, 22:46:42
Unknown Vizeadmiral #29
Does anyone recognize this Vizeadmiral?
Danke!
(https://s15.postimg.cc/jck6ktfln/Unknown29.png)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Urs Heßling am 15 August 2018, 08:34:57
moin,

Zitat von: Hägar am 12 August 2018, 14:45:49
.. dealing with the vice admiral and his entourage.
Tja .. aus Sicht der Kleidervorschriften wäre ein energisches ".. dealing with" durchaus angebracht :O/Y :-D
3 Herren, 3 Anzüge : 1 x Jackett, 1 x blauer Tuchmantel, 1 x Ledermantel ..
.. und der Adm trägt, wenn ich das richtig sehe, ein Jackett mit Ärmelstreifen und Schulterstücken (?) ..

Gruß, Urs
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Axel Niestle am 15 August 2018, 13:49:20
Urs,

das musste wirklich mal gesagt werden! Den einfachen Seemann hätte man seinerzeit bei einem offiziellen Besuch an Bord für solch ein Kleiderwirrwarr ordentlich zur Brust genommen :MG:

Axel
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 17 August 2018, 16:39:03
Unknown admiral #30
Who is this admiral (possibly Konteradmiral or Vizeadmiral)?
Photo taken in Italy between 14 and 18 March 1943.
It is not Leo Kreisch or Wilhelm Meendsen-Bohlken because they are already on this photo (I cut out the part with this unknown admiral).
Danke!
(https://s22.postimg.cc/elg39l5v5/Unknown30.png)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Hägar am 11 September 2018, 11:14:31
Just another admiral to be identified.
To the left hand side, Boehm can be recognized.

Thanks for any help - Hägar
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 12 September 2018, 10:18:24
Zitat von: Hägar am 11 September 2018, 11:14:31
Just another admiral to be identified.
To the left hand side, Boehm can be recognized.

Thanks for any help - Hägar
The Vizeadmiral in the middle is Otto Schenk.
Regards
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Hägar am 12 September 2018, 10:58:07
Thankyou, KM Adm

As it was an easy match for you, it seems, here another vice admiral for identification.

Thanks in advance - Hägar
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Alex Shenec am 12 September 2018, 12:11:30
Hallo.

Conrad Albrecht

Schöne Grüße

Alex
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Urs Heßling am 12 September 2018, 13:13:40
moin,

Jahr : 1935 ?

Gruß, Urs
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 12 September 2018, 21:20:51
It is indeed Conrad Albrecht (photo taken before 01 December 1935 when Albrecht was promoted to Admiral).
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Hägar am 16 September 2018, 14:06:52
Which VAdm is here in company with RP von Hindenburg, seen in Kiel in 1927/28?
Regards - Hägar
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: joern am 17 September 2018, 16:48:24
Hallo Hägar,
eventuell könnte es Vizeadm. G. Hansen sein. Die Aufnahme müßte dann aber von 1931 sein.
Hier könnte  Hansen auch zu sehen sein:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-2005-0901-503,_Kiel,_Paul_v._Hindenburg,_Erich_Raeder.jpg (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-2005-0901-503,_Kiel,_Paul_v._Hindenburg,_Erich_Raeder.jpg)
Grüße Joern
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 22 September 2018, 23:21:51
Unknown admiral #31
Photo taken in Greece.
1 Erich Förste
2 Siegfried Maßmann
3 ???
(https://i.postimg.cc/sgRdY8VP/Unknown_31.png)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 25 September 2018, 19:16:55
Unknown admiral #32
Does anyone recognize this admiral?
Danke!
(https://i.postimg.cc/kg0LMYr3/Unknown32.png)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 27 September 2018, 21:20:36
Unknown admiral #33
Photo taken on 31 May 1939 in Hamburg (return of the Condor Legion)
Danke!
(https://i.postimg.cc/Mpv7r62v/Unknown33.png)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 01 Oktober 2018, 13:01:54
Unknown admiral #34
Who is this admiral? Photos taken in France.
Danke!
(https://i.postimg.cc/sgTST47y/Unknown34.png)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Hägar am 01 Oktober 2018, 15:51:13
Zu #80

Danke, Jörn, für den Hinweis.
Die Eingabelung auf 1927/28 ergab sich aus dem Fundzusammenhang, ist aber nicht sakrosankt.
Insofern scheint der Anlass Stapellauf DEUTSCHLAND eine sinnvolle Annahme zu sein.

Gruß - Hägar
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Urs Heßling am 01 Oktober 2018, 16:14:03
moin,

Zitat von: joern am 17 September 2018, 16:48:24
eventuell könnte es Vizeadm. G. Hansen sein. Die Aufnahme müßte dann aber von 1931 sein.
Eventuell doch im Zeitraum 1928-30 ?
Denn der im Wagen vorn sitzende Adjutant könnte Rolf Johannesson sein.
https://www.ecosia.org/images?q=rolf%20johannesson#id=B2E814CAD247E929D3D374CE94653CE417F72036

Gruß, Urs
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: joern am 01 Oktober 2018, 16:59:16
Hallo Urs,
von den Dienstgraden passt es dann  so nicht zusammen. Als Johannesson Adjudant war hatte Hansen noch den Dienstgrad Konteradmiral.
Grüße Joern
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Urs Heßling am 01 Oktober 2018, 17:21:25
moin, Joern,
stimmt auch wieder top :MG:

Gruß, Urs
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 04 Oktober 2018, 22:42:00
Unknown admirale #35
Does anyone recognize these 2 admirals?
1 ???
2 ???
Danke
(https://i.postimg.cc/pd1q1MtT/kriegsm1.jpg)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 07 Oktober 2018, 19:05:52
Unknown Konteradmiral #23 on page 4 is Hans Feldbausch.
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 07 Oktober 2018, 20:20:37
Please check my thread "Kaiserliche Marine Admirals ID" in the Kaiserliche Marine - Allgemein section if you wish to help with the identification of Kaiserliche Marine admirals.
Danke
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 09 Oktober 2018, 20:15:39
Unknown Konteradmiral #36
Does anyone recognize this Konteradmiral?
Danke!
(https://i.postimg.cc/gk4SqMgm/Unknown36.png)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 09 Oktober 2018, 20:17:39
Unknown Vizeadmial #17 on page 3 is Hans-Herbert Stobwasser.
Unknown Konteradmiral #20 on page 3 is also Hans-Herbert Stobwasser.
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 14 Oktober 2018, 18:14:26
Unknown admirale #37
Who are these 2 admirals?
1 Vizeadmiral... ?
2 Konteradmiral (with a beard)... ?
Danke!
(https://i.postimg.cc/wTzQjNtB/navyOffs.jpg)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 17 Oktober 2018, 19:29:48
Page 2, Unknown Konteradmiral #6 is Martin Baltzer.
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 21 Oktober 2018, 18:52:52
Page 2, Unknown admiral #10 is Ernst Schirlitz.
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 22 Oktober 2018, 21:01:31
Unknown admiral #38
I think he is a Konteradmiral.
Danke!
(https://i.postimg.cc/tgk49xLZ/Unknown38.png)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 22 Oktober 2018, 21:02:53
Unknown admiral #39
A Vizeadiral I think.
Danke!
(https://i.postimg.cc/0QrPxHYF/Unknown39.png)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 07 März 2019, 09:01:08
Unknown admiral @40
Does anyone recognize this admiral? His exact rank is unknown (most probably Konteradmiral or perhaps Vizeadmiral). The photo was taken in Oslo, Norway. I can't identify him. If anyone has any ideas please help.
(https://forum.axishistory.com/download/file.php?id=437256&t=1)
Titel: Re: If you need help with identifying Admirals post your photos here
Beitrag von: Kriegsmarine Admiral am 28 Dezember 2019, 19:55:46
Unknown Admiral @41

Who is this Admiral?
(https://i.postimg.cc/d0P9Bt0h/Who7.jpg)