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Offline t-geronimo

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Januar bis April 1945 - Norwegen / Norway
« am: 23 Juli 2009, 22:29:08 »
Die bisher bekannten Daten sind hier zu finden:

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« Letzte Änderung: 28 Februar 2010, 22:55:55 von t-geronimo »
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Offline Erling Skjold

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Re: Januar bis April 1945 - Norwegen / Norway
« Antwort #1 am: 28 Juli 2009, 22:11:17 »
Hallo,
11.1.45: was against U-739 escorted by V-6409.
16.1.45: V-6408 was escorting U-307 when sunk.
22.1.45: Stockholm sailed in convoy St-784-Be together with D. Grana and D. Ida Joerk. Escorted by M-202, M-253, V-5313 and Fl.B-557. The sinking was observed, but all the crew died.

12.2.45: M-381 was sunk by MTB-717 - no submarine.

19.3.45: Sirius was hit 0642. Was in convoy Dr-174-Bo together with D. Glattesee (can be some more ships) + escorts V-5906, V-5908, V-6403 and V-6409.
5.4.45: Torridal was hit 1720. In convoy Rö-?-Dr. At least together with tug Danzig (1915/67) that towed the D. Adolf Binder + escort V-6301, V-6303, V-6312, V-6403 and V-6409. The Danzig was damaged by a torpedo that exploded close (Frühzünder)
25.4.45: Venturer attacked outside Stavanger, and against UJ-1751 and UJ-1753.

MfG Erling

Offline Platon Alexiades

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Re: Januar bis April 1945 - Norwegen / Norway
« Antwort #2 am: 30 Juli 2009, 01:13:22 »
Hello Erling,

The attack by VENTURER on 20 January occurred at 2126 in 58°36.2' N, 05°29' E (off Obrestad not NW of Namsos). The targets were described as three medium-sized vessels escorted by four trawlers, on course 330°, 11 knots.

The attack by the same submarine on 21 March was on a single unescorted single funnel, three-island, two-masted vessel of about 2500 ton. Four torpedoes were fired at 1326.5 in 63°59.7' N, 09°46' E.

Do you have any clue as to their identities?

Thanks,

Platon

Offline Erling Skjold

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Re: Januar bis April 1945 - Norwegen / Norway
« Antwort #3 am: 31 Juli 2009, 01:06:54 »
Hallo,
A difficult task Platon :wink:
It looks like the attack 20.1.45 wasn't observed, as I can't find it in Ultra nor in the few surviving KTBs from the area.
From KTB 5. M-Fl and 17. UJ-Fl the only convoy I can see fits is southbound St-779-Ks (sailed 16.00 from Stavanger. at Skarvöy 00.00, and arrived Egersund 02.00 as they belived there were surface ships in the area). This convoy consisted of: Erna, Krückau, Storefjeld and Hillevaag. Escorts: UJ-1702, UJ-1706, UJ-1709 and M-251.

21.3.45 (from ultra) the UJ-1432 reported 2 torpedoes exploding 13.31 at Signalstelle "Apenvaagsoten"(must be a strange spelling). This fits very well with the attack, and UJ-1432 was in the area (Folla between Trondheim and Rörvik / Namsos).
20.3.45 UJ-1432 reported D. Leba damaged by grounding off Melöy, but that she continued with her towards Rörvik. 20.3.45 Leba sailed from Bodö (for Oplö off Namsos), Gordias (Bodö - Sandnessjöen) and Torridal (Bodö - Trondheim) were due for sailing. In addition V-6402 escorted U-325 in this area 21.3.45.
Unfortunately no telegrams in ultra gives the whole convoy status for Nordküste area 21.3.45.
My theory is that the Venturer attacked the UJ-1432 sailing alone from Rörvik, or the Torridal (should have had escort)

23.3.45 UJ-1430 attacked a submarine in AF6488, but handed the hunt over to V-6409 which attacked the submarine in pos. 64.38'N 10.48'E

Best regards,
Erling

Offline Platon Alexiades

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Re: Januar bis April 1945 - Norwegen / Norway
« Antwort #4 am: 31 Juli 2009, 13:43:24 »
Hello Erling,

Many thanks for the info, I asume that your ULTRA source is from microfilms in the DEFE3 series? Do you have a reference numbers? Thanks again.

Platon

Offline Erling Skjold

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Re: Januar bis April 1945 - Norwegen / Norway
« Antwort #5 am: 31 Juli 2009, 23:48:35 »
Hello,
Yes :-)

DEFE3/550: 420, 925 and 1047
DEFE3/551: 1047
DEFE3/552: 50, 950 and 952

Best regards,
Erling

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Re: Januar bis April 1945 - Norwegen / Norway
« Antwort #6 am: 01 August 2009, 15:19:44 »
Many thanks Erling!

Platon