Peru Fleet in Navalism

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Jefgte

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16 july
Buenos Aires

Experts of all States are receiving by the President Jorge Martinez y Garcia.
"
Seniors
I am very happy to receive members of the friendly Countries.
You are at a very important moment of the history.
Our States, Peru, Bolivia, Paraguay & Argentina are going to be assembling in one entity, Nations Unidas de Suramerica.

This "Unidas" must be in the respect of all state, traditions, culture & personality of each one.

We have, with the President Moreno defined a number of points that must be modified to allow a better cohesion of states in their functioning.

The existing Constitution of the "Unidas" should be the basis and the integration of applications from Peru is not big problems.
Requests from the President Moreno are fair and without exes. I count on your honesty work to move quickly. I hope to submit the new text to the different governments as quickly as possible...
1/700 WL scratchbuilt in progress
- HMS Lion
- SMS Friedrich dre Grosse
- USS Arkansas

Jefgte

 :MG:

Oct 1917

Finally, Experts decided that NUS Government & Parliament"ll be on the line of the future railway so, Corrientes was approved for a better geographic position than Asuncion.
The NUS President is alternatively for 2 years, from Argentina & Peru.
The first President "ll be from Argentina
The Presidents from the Naciones "ll takes one (minimum) meeting every year about the Unitas Health.
NUS Government is chosen by the President & is alternatively, every 2 years from Argentina & Peru. Some ministers from Paraguay & Bolivia could be choose too.

The NUS Calendar was adopted

- Spring 1918
Laws Experts commissions choose by Presidents. One in each specialty
Parliamentary deputies' election in all states.
- Summer 1918
First session of deputies.
First session of NUS Governement
For the security, Army & Armada
Exchange of superior officers & officers.
Transfer of some materials, warships,
Complementarities of Building Plan.
Uniformity of Armament.
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Jef  :MZ:
1/700 WL scratchbuilt in progress
- HMS Lion
- SMS Friedrich dre Grosse
- USS Arkansas

Jefgte

 :MG:

In Navalism, Nations Unitas Suramerica ''ll laid down in Callao shipyards 2 cruisers:
Lloque Yupanqui & Capac Yupanqui (Inca Emperors)




7500t, NUS Light Cruiser laid down 1919 (Engine 1920)

Displacement:
   7 500 t light; 7 817 t standard; 8 510 t normal; 9 065 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   557.74 ft / 557.74 ft x 55.77 ft x 22.27 ft (normal load)
   170.00 m / 170.00 m x 17.00 m  x 6.79 m

Armament:
      12 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (6x2 guns), 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1919 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
      8 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1919 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
      4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1919 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts
     on side ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring
   Weight of broadside 1 312 lbs / 595 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 200
   12 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3.15" / 80 mm   433.07 ft / 132.00 m   8.99 ft / 2.74 m
   Ends:   1.57" / 40 mm   124.67 ft / 38.00 m   8.01 ft / 2.44 m
     Main Belt covers 119 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   3.15" / 80 mm   1.57" / 40 mm      2.36" / 60 mm
   2nd:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 1.57" / 40 mm, Conning tower: 3.15" / 80 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 76 000 shp / 56 696 Kw = 32.02 kts
   Range 8 500nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 248 tons

Complement:
   442 - 575

Cost:
   £1.685 million / $6.740 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 164 tons, 1.9 %
   Armour: 1 264 tons, 14.9 %
      - Belts: 553 tons, 6.5 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 114 tons, 1.3 %
      - Armour Deck: 569 tons, 6.7 %
      - Conning Tower: 28 tons, 0.3 %
   Machinery: 2 657 tons, 31.2 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 214 tons, 37.8 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 010 tons, 11.9 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 200 tons, 2.4 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     6 920 lbs / 3 139 Kg = 64.1 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 1.1 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.12
   Metacentric height 2.6 ft / 0.8 m
   Roll period: 14.5 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.48
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.15

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.430
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.62 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 61
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      24.61 ft / 7.50 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   20.67 ft / 6.30 m
      - Mid (50 %):      17.39 ft / 5.30 m
      - Quarterdeck (18 %):   17.39 ft / 5.30 m
      - Stern:      17.39 ft / 5.30 m
      - Average freeboard:   18.85 ft / 5.75 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 119.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 112.4 %
   Waterplane Area: 19 534 Square feet or 1 815 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 105 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 96 lbs/sq ft or 467 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.95
      - Longitudinal: 1.59
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

:MZ:
1/700 WL scratchbuilt in progress
- HMS Lion
- SMS Friedrich dre Grosse
- USS Arkansas

Jefgte

 :MG:
Here is the NUS Armada list & the localisation-
Note;
- The main Battleships are now in Atlantic, in the same Fleet.
- The new BB Paraguay (25265t) is going to be commissionned mid 1919.

1st April 1919

NUS ATLANTIC


1st BB div – Waskhar – 28000t, Atahualpa – 18000t - (Bahia Blanca)
3rd BB div – MaytaCapac - 16000t - (Bahia Blanca)
4th BB div - Veinticinco de Mayo - 14784t, AC Manco Capac – 13200t - (Bahia Blanca)
2ndAC div - San Carlos de Bariloche, Ciudad Jardín – 9475t - (Puerto Deseado)
1st CL div – Altair – 5600t - (Bahia Blanca)
2nd CL div – Antisuyu – 4300t - (Rio Gallegos)
3rd CL div – Toreador, Novillero – 4600t - (Puerto Deseado)
6th CL div - Nueva Russia, Nueva Francia – 4385t - (Rio Gallegos)
8th CL div – Tarapaca – 3400t - (Puerto Deseado)
9th CL div - San Luis, La Argentina – 4207t - (Rio Gallegos)
1stDD – Putre, Robore, Pica, Camiri – 1000t - (Bahia Blanca)
2ndDD - D200, D201, D202, D203 – 1000t - (Bahia Blanca)
3rdDD - D204, D205, D206, D207 - 1000t - (Bahia Blanca)
4thDD - D208, D209, D210, D211 – 1000t - (Bahia Blanca)
5thDD - D212, D213, D214, D215 – 1000t - (Puerto Deseado)
8thDD - D100, D101, D102, D103 – 750t - (Puerto Deseado)
9thDD - D104, D105, D106, D107 – 750t - (Rio Gallegos)
10thDD - D108, D109, D110, D111 – 750t - (Rio Gallegos)
Fleet Tenders - Nevado Pisco, Nevado Huaytapallana – 3500t - (Bahia Blanca)

Coastal Patrols
2nd PB – RB200, RB201 - 200t – (Rio Uruguay-Colon)
3rd PB - RB202, RB203 – 200t – Rio Uruguay-Colon)
1st PB - M200, M201 – 480t – (Rio de la Plata-Buenos Aires)
1st  TD - La Rioja, Jujuy, Catamarca – 750t - (Bahia Blanca)
2nd TD – Chubut, Misiones, Salta – 750t - (Puerto Deseado)
3rd TD – Neuguen, Tucuman, Corrientes – 750t - (Rio Gallegos)
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NUS PACIFIC

5th BB div – Illapa, Inti, Cuzco – 10400t - (Callao)
1st AC div -  Tupac Yupanqui – 6000t - (Callao)
3th- AC div - Gran Chaco, Cordillera, San Pedro – 5983t - (Callao)
4th AC div - Inca Roca, Yahuar Huacac, Pachacutec – 4800t - (Chimbote)
4th CL div - Nueva Alborada, Nueva Germania – 4385t - (Callao)
5th CL div - Nueva Italia, Nueva Londres – 4385t – (Pisco)
7th CL div – Amazonas – 3400t - (Callao)
11thDD - D112, D113, D114, D115 –750t - (Pisco)
12thDD - D116, D117, D118, D119 – 750t - (Callao)
6thDD – Arica, Mejilones, Captain Marcona – 750t - (Callao)
7thDD – Pisco, Camiri, Guaqui – 750t - (Callao)
8thTD – Caravani, Sucre, El Alto, Cochabamba – 750t - (Chimbote)
9thTD – Potosi, Oruro,  Montero,  Trinitad – 750t - (Pisco)
5SS – Sant Marcello, San Martino – 750t - (Callao)
5SS - Santa Anna, Santa Cruz – 500t - (Callao)
Fleet Tenders - Nevado Huascaran, Nevado Alpamayo – 3500t - (Callao)

Coastal patrols
1CTB – Maria, Cartagena – 410t - (Talara)
2CTB - Esmeralda, Guyaquil – 410t - (Callao)
3CTB - La Guaira, David – 410t - (Callao)
4CTB – Cali, Barranquilla – 410t  - (Pisco)
5CTB – Calama, Tocopilla – 410t - (Pisco)
6CTB – Iquique, Pisagua – 410t - (Antofagasta)
1MN - Rio Nevati, Rio Pozulo -125t - (Talara)
2MN - Rio Yucuyali, Rio Pisquit – 125t - (Callao)
3MN - Rio Marano, Rio Apurimac – 125t - (Pisco)
4MN - Rio Hualagua, Rio Puruis – 125t - (Antofagasta)
1SS – Santa Anna, Santa Cruz - 250t - (Callao)
2SS - San Ignacio, Santa Maria – 500t - (Callao)
3SS - San Domingo, San Phelipe – 500t – (Chimbote)

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1/700 WL scratchbuilt in progress
- HMS Lion
- SMS Friedrich dre Grosse
- USS Arkansas

Jefgte

#34
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Start mid 1919, in Callao Shipyards 2 x 6" cruisers - Cuntisuyu & Collasuyu



Note that NUS Admiralty choose, with the armament disposition, the possibility to engage 3 DDs.
Fore & aft 6" turrets could engage 2 differents targets & the middle 120mm guns had the own directory fire control for a third target.
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7200t, NUS Light Cruiser laid down 1919 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   7 200 t light; 7 485 t standard; 8 256 t normal; 8 874 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   556.36 ft / 554.46 ft x 55.45 ft x 19.18 ft (normal load)
   169.58 m / 169.00 m x 16.90 m  x 5.85 m

Armament:
      8 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (4x2 guns), 108.00lbs / 48.99kg shells, 1919 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts
     Aft Main mounts separated by engine room
      2 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1919 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on side, all amidships
      2 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1919 Model
     Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline, all amidships
      4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns in single mounts, 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1919 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
      4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1919 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 1 083 lbs / 491 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 190
   12 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Belts:      Width (max)   Length (avg)      Height (avg)
   Main:   3.15" / 80 mm   459.32 ft / 140.00 m   9.19 ft / 2.80 m
   Ends:   Unarmoured
     Main Belt covers 127 % of normal length

   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   1.97" / 50 mm   0.79" / 20 mm      1.97" / 50 mm
   2nd:   1.57" / 40 mm   0.79" / 20 mm      1.97" / 50 mm
   3rd:   1.57" / 40 mm   0.79" / 20 mm      1.97" / 50 mm
   4th:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -
   5th:   0.50" / 13 mm         -               -

   - Armour deck: 0.98" / 25 mm, Conning tower: 3.15" / 80 mm

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 4 shafts, 75 960 shp / 56 666 Kw = 31.93 kts
   Range 8 500nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 1 389 tons

Complement:
   432 - 562

Cost:
   £1.662 million / $6.650 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 135 tons, 1.6 %
   Armour: 991 tons, 12.0 %
      - Belts: 533 tons, 6.5 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 60 tons, 0.7 %
      - Armour Deck: 370 tons, 4.5 %
      - Conning Tower: 28 tons, 0.3 %
   Machinery: 2 830 tons, 34.3 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 2 995 tons, 36.3 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1 056 tons, 12.8 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 249 tons, 3.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     5 920 lbs / 2 685 Kg = 54.8 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 1.0 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.15
   Metacentric height 2.7 ft / 0.8 m
   Roll period: 14.2 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.37
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.01

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.490
   Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 23.55 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 5.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      21.65 ft / 6.60 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   20.01 ft / 6.10 m
      - Mid (50 %):      15.75 ft / 4.80 m
      - Quarterdeck (18 %):   15.75 ft / 4.80 m
      - Stern:      15.75 ft / 4.80 m
      - Average freeboard:   17.37 ft / 5.30 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 127.4 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 109.8 %
   Waterplane Area: 20 299 Square feet or 1 886 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 103 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 92 lbs/sq ft or 450 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.97
      - Longitudinal: 1.26
      - Overall: 1.00
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform


100t -fire control
25t -Marconi long range
24t - torpedoes
20t - for 60 depth charges
80t - for 80 mines
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Note: The 7500t cruisers Lloque Yupanqui & Capac Yupanqui were not laid down.
1/700 WL scratchbuilt in progress
- HMS Lion
- SMS Friedrich dre Grosse
- USS Arkansas

Jefgte

 :MG:

Here is the final design of the 1500t Tribal Class



Paracas, NUS Tribal class-Batch1 laid down 1920 (Engine 1916)

Displacement:
   1 500 t light; 1 573 t standard; 1 828 t normal; 2 033 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
   386.87 ft / 383.86 ft x 32.81 ft x 12.70 ft (normal load)
   117.92 m / 117.00 m x 10.00 m  x 3.87 m

Armament:
      6 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns (3x2 guns), 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1918 Model
     Breech loading guns in deck mounts with hoists
     on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
      4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (1x4 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1916 Model
     Anti-aircraft guns in deck mount
     on side amidships, all raised guns
      2 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1905 Model
     Machine guns in deck mounts
     on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
   Weight of broadside 324 lbs / 147 kg
   Shells per gun, main battery: 200
   12 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
   - Gun armour:   Face (max)   Other gunhouse (avg)   Barbette/hoist (max)
   Main:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -
   2nd:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -
   3rd:   0.79" / 20 mm         -               -

Machinery:
   Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
   Geared drive, 2 shafts, 32 000 shp / 23 872 Kw = 31.74 kts
   Range 7 000nm at 12.00 kts
   Bunker at max displacement = 459 tons

Complement:
   139 - 181

Cost:
   £0.507 million / $2.030 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
   Armament: 41 tons, 2.2 %
   Armour: 11 tons, 0.6 %
      - Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Armament: 11 tons, 0.6 %
      - Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
      - Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
   Machinery: 915 tons, 50.1 %
   Hull, fittings & equipment: 479 tons, 26.2 %
   Fuel, ammunition & stores: 328 tons, 18.0 %
   Miscellaneous weights: 54 tons, 3.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
   Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
     384 lbs / 174 Kg = 7.3 x 4.7 " / 120 mm shells or 0.3 torpedoes
   Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.13
   Metacentric height 1.2 ft / 0.4 m
   Roll period: 12.7 seconds
   Steadiness   - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
         - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.64
   Seaboat quality  (Average = 1.00): 1.00

Hull form characteristics:
   Hull has a flush deck
   Block coefficient: 0.400
   Length to Beam Ratio: 11.70 : 1
   'Natural speed' for length: 19.59 kts
   Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 %
   Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 70
   Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
   Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
   Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
      - Stem:      17.06 ft / 5.20 m
      - Forecastle (20 %):   14.11 ft / 4.30 m
      - Mid (50 %):      11.81 ft / 3.60 m
      - Quarterdeck (17 %):   11.15 ft / 3.40 m
      - Stern:      10.50 ft / 3.20 m
      - Average freeboard:   12.57 ft / 3.83 m
   Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
   Space   - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 182.2 %
      - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 44.5 %
   Waterplane Area: 7 752 Square feet or 720 Square metres
   Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 66 %
   Structure weight / hull surface area: 33 lbs/sq ft or 163 Kg/sq metre
   Hull strength (Relative):
      - Cross-sectional: 0.50
      - Longitudinal: 0.99
      - Overall: 0.53
   Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
   Room for accommodation and workspaces is extremely poor
   Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Misc : 56t
torpedoes : 24t
torpedo reserve : 0t
Depth charges : 0.333 x 30 =10t
reserve : 22 t

Trial speed : 33.5kts
1/700 WL scratchbuilt in progress
- HMS Lion
- SMS Friedrich dre Grosse
- USS Arkansas

Jefgte

We are now end of january 1920

Since 27 january,
The BB Mayta Capac (16000t-6x340-23kts) & the 2 DDs Putre & Robore are back in Bahia Blanca from Durban festivities.

These ships are going to be integrated in the Allianza Pacific Fleet after fast maintenance work.

The final NUS Squadron for Pacific is:

BB Huayna Capac -16000t - 6x340 - 23kts - Flag - Almirante Raul Reynoso y Baeyz
BB Mayta Capac -16000t - 6x340 - 23kts
AC Manco Capac - 13200t -12x230 - 24.8kts
CL Altair - 5600t - 10x152 - 27kts
4 DD - Putre-Robore-Pica-Lima - 1000t - 3x120 - 6ttx533+6 - 31kts
4 DD - Tandil-Charata-Angastaco-Cutral-(D200 class) 1000t - 4x102 - 4ttx457 - 29kts

The NUS Squadron "ll left Bahia Blanca the 30 january

1/700 WL scratchbuilt in progress
- HMS Lion
- SMS Friedrich dre Grosse
- USS Arkansas

Jefgte

 :MG:

Navalism restart.

So, NUS Armada is stoped & finish now.
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Navalism restart in 1880 & I play FRANCE.


Jef  :MZ:
1/700 WL scratchbuilt in progress
- HMS Lion
- SMS Friedrich dre Grosse
- USS Arkansas

Jefgte

 :MG:

Restart in 1880 is closed too.

Navalism restart on a new planet:
Terre Nova

So, this topic is close


Jef  :MZ:
1/700 WL scratchbuilt in progress
- HMS Lion
- SMS Friedrich dre Grosse
- USS Arkansas

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