Loss of steamers MONBALDO, MAR BIANCO, PALERMO and SANGIGI

Begonnen von LColombo, 04 November 2022, 19:56:03

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LColombo

Hello, does anyone know if German records contain anything regarding casualties and survivors among the crews of these four vessels, all lost under German control after the armistice?

MONBALDO (sometimes incorrectly reported as MOMBALDO), a former blockade runner that had sailed from Brazil to France and later from France to the Baltic Sea, was sunk by an air raid in Stettin on 24 March 1945.

MAR BIANCO and SANGIGI were both sunk by air raids in Dalmatia, the former in Zara/Zadar on 7 December 1943 and the latter in Dubrovnik on 10 March 1944.

PALERMO, the former Greek ATHINAI captured by the torpedo boat SIMONE SCHIAFFINO off Messina on 28 October 1940 (the day Italy declared war on Greece), was sunk by a mine off the mouth of the Tagliamento on 27 May 1944. This according to "Navi mercantili perdute", whereas some websites claim that she was only damaged by the mine and was sunk by an air raid in Fiume in July 1944.

de domenico

From Historisches Marinearchiv: PALERMO, 2.9.1943 damaged by 4 RAF Beaufighters of 252 Squadron with bombs at Preveza; taken to Vlore 9.9.1943, 11.9.1943 captured by the  Wehrmacht  and later delivered  to Mittelmeer Reederei GmbH. 26.5.1944 en route from Venice to  Porec in Croatia, 27.5.44 at  04.00 hits a mine, damaged and sunk  at 45°33.7' North/ 13° 24.8' East

kalli

nach Dr. Meyer Kriegsreedereien (hier Mittelmeer-Reederei GmbH)

Jadran (1911, Stockton/Tees: Rochardson, Duck & Co.) 3666 BRT; 100,94 x 14,26 m; 1800 PSi, 11,4 kn; österr. S/S Fiume; 28.7.1914 k.u.k. Marine, Traindampfer, Dampfer VIII; 1919 ital., 1924 Fiumana; 19.. Sangigi, Peninsulare Soc. Italiana di Cabotaggio, Genua; 9.1943 kroat. Jadran; 194. MMR; 28.2.1944 + Dubrovnik/Flibo

Mar Bianco (1912, Belfast: Workman, Clark & Co., 313) 8446 BRT; 149,40 x 18,69 m; brit. S/S Hawkes Bay; 1916 Port Napier; 1936 ital. Martand; 1938 Martano; 1938 Mar Bianco, A. Zanchi, Genua; 19.8.1942 ital. Marine; 12.6.1943 re; 9.1943 übernommen; 17.12.11943 + Zara/Flibo; 2.2.1944 gekentert

t-geronimo

Mar Bianco:
Mine hit 07.12.1943, 10:00 in the Srdnje-Channel. Ship entered Zara 08.12.1943, 09:20.
In air attack 16.12.1943, 22:00 two bomb hits, forecastle completely destroyed, ship grounded.
For both incidents no casualties mentioned.

Palermo:
I confirm de domenicos data. Most probably it was an own mine.
No casualties mentioned.

Source: war diary Admiral Adria
Gruß, Thorsten

"There is every possibility that things are going to change completely."
(Captain Tennant, HMS Repulse, 09.12.1941)

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Rudergänger

Hallo Kalli
Dr. Meyer Kriegsreedereien ? Ist das ein Buch oder eine andere Quelle?

Schönen Abend
Harald

kalli

Hallo Harald,
die Angaben stammen aus einer bisher unveröffentlichten Arbeit von Dr. Günther Meyer.

Rudergänger

Hallo Kalli,
Danke für deine schnelle Antwort.
Vielleicht wird ja irgendwann was veröffentlich.
Der Name des Autors bürgt ja für Qualität.


Schönen Tag

Harald

LColombo

Thanks everyone. Is there anything on Monbaldo and Sangigi?

LColombo

Hello again, does anyone know any information on the fate of the crew of Monbaldo when she was sunk by an air raid in Stettin on 24 March 1945?

AvM

#9
According to agreement on 20 September 1946 between Poland and Soviets
MONBALDO, which sank in the Basen Notecki of the Szczecin Harbour was realocated
to Soviet Union as a wreck which could be repaired.


LColombo

Yes, the ship was repaired (in Wismar and later in the Netherlands) and resumed sailing in June 1955 for the Soviet Union, as Kaliningrad. Later Banga from May 1960, scrapped in Hamburg in 1969.

I wondered if KTBs or other documents record if there were any casualties in her sinking in 1945.

AvM

Wracks in Szczecin (Stettin), etc divided between Poland (Polska) and Soviets (ZSRR)
Szczecin    - Stettin
Swinoujscie - Swinemünde
Ustka       - Stolpmünde

Wraki zdatne do remontu    - Wreck which could be repaired
Wraki niezdatne do remontu - Wreck which could not be repaired
Wypornosc - Displacement

AvM

Zitat von: LColombo am 23 Oktober 2023, 23:51:35Yes, the ship was repaired (in Wismar and later in the Netherlands) and resumed sailing in June 1955 for the Soviet Union, as Kaliningrad. Later Banga from May 1960, scrapped in Hamburg in 1969.

There is a history with photos in
Yu.NTrifonov & I.V.Parlov
"Morskoy Flot SSSR. TRofei i Reparatsii" Tom V
2014


Zitat von: LColombo am 23 Oktober 2023, 23:51:35I wondered if KTBs or other documents record if there were any casualties in her sinking in 1945.

I have no KTB

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