Spaniens neues S-80 Plus-U-Boot zu groß für sein Dock

[Ulrich Rudofsky]

Spain's New S-80 Plus Submarine Too Big For its Dock 

Spain's S-80 Plus submarine is an advanced design featuring Air Independent Propulsion  (AIP), which is reported to have cost around € 1 billion. The original design came in overweight, so it necessary to lengthen the submarine by 10 meters.  Now, it appears that the newly delivered sub is too large for the Spanish naval dock at Cartagena. The dock will require dredging and an extension. Oops.

[Spaniens S-80 Plus-U-Boot ist ein fortschrittliches Design mit "Air Independent Propulsion (AIP)", das rund eine Milliarde Euro gekostet hat. Der ursprüngliche Entwurf kam in Übergewicht heraus, so dass es notwendig war, das U-Boot um 10 Meter zu verlängern. Nun scheint das neu gelieferte U-Boot zu groß für das spanische Marinedock in Cartagena zu sein. Das Dock erfordert Ausbaggern und eine Erweiterung.] Hoppla.
http://www.oldsaltblog.com/2018/07/spains-new-s-80-plussubmarine-too-big-for-its-dock/

[t-geronimo]

Ein Fall für RonnyM. 

[maxim]

Habe aber irgendwo neulich gelesen, dass die spanische Marine das dementiert hat - keine Ahnung, was stimmt.

[ede144]

Dass sie zu schwer waren ist schon lange bekannt. Dass sie jetzt zu lang sind, wäre neu aber nicht ganz von der Hand zu weisen

[Ulrich Rudofsky]

"Spain's El Pais newspaper reported 19 July 2018 that while the navy's dockyards at Cartagena, southeastern Spain, can accommodate vessels up to about 256 feet in length, the S-80 Plus design is over 265 feet long – nine feet too long to fit in its submarine pens." https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/s-80.htm

[2M3]

Spain's New S-80 Plus Submarine Too Big For its Dock 

... Nun scheint das neu gelieferte U-Boot zu groß für das spanische Marinedock in Cartagena zu sein. Das Dock erfordert Ausbaggern und eine Erweiterung.] Hoppla.
http://www.oldsaltblog.com/2018/07/spains-new-s-80-plussubmarine-too-big-for-its-dock/

Moin,

wenn in das Marinedock in Cartagena ein gut 80 Meter langes U-Boot nicht rein passt, für welche Schiffe ist es dann denn gebaut worden ?
Als ich im Februar in Catagena war, waren da einige Einheiten in Fregattengröße zu sehen. Fotos von mir.

Gruss Frank

[Ulrich Rudofsky]

Ich nehme an, dass es sich um einen typgeschneiderten Uboot-Stall/Bunker handelt 

[maxim]

Oder eine Falschnachricht

[Jose38cm]

Hello everybody,

This all originated from an article published in the Spanish newspaper "El País" written by a journalist with little knowledge on the subject.

https://elpais.com/politica/2018/07/17/actualidad/1531846944_777118.html

The truth is that the enlargement of the sub docks had already been approved back in 2011 by the ministry of Defense.

Unfortunately, by the time the Spanish Navy released its official communiqué on July 19th, the foreign press, including the BBC and the New York Times had already spread El Pais' "fake news".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-44871788
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/18/world/europe/spain-military-submarine.html

British "The Sun" went even further calling it a "Humiliation for Spain". LOL

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6822167/humiliation-for-spain-as-new-900-million-navy-submarines-are-too-big-for-their-docks/

If you understand Spanish the whole story is explained here:

http://www.ejercitos.org/2018/07/22/malentendido-periodistico/

I'm attaching the Spanish Navy official communiqué below.

[Ulrich Rudofsky]

 

[Jose38cm]

Ulrich,

I just found the English version of the article from "El Pais" published on 18 July, that originated all this "fuss" on the press worldwide.

https://elpais.com/elpais/2018/07/18/inenglish/1531905099_853875.html

It all comes down to politics I guess. If the prestige of NAVANTIA shipbuilding is damaged, other companies will benefit from it. Just last month the British BAE Systems won the contract over NAVANTIA to build the new fleet of frigates for the Australian Navy.

[maxim]

There was a similar campaign against the Baden-Württemberg class, when five shipyards were selected for the next round of the competition for the new US Navy frigate - and the German yard was out.