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Autor Thema: Bremse in Bergen, Norway 09.04.1940.  (Gelesen 614 mal)

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Offline PS

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Bremse in Bergen, Norway 09.04.1940.
« am: 05 März 2018, 09:56:41 »
Hello
Added a part of a Picture showing signal flags used by Bremse in Bergen 09.04.1940.
Is the letters and number right ? And is it possible to find out what signal Bremse is using ?
regards
PS

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Re: Bremse in Bergen, Norway 09.04.1940.
« Antwort #1 am: 05 März 2018, 23:59:14 »
Hello PAUL!
I think you have identified the flags correctly, but ... the "1" in the mast top indicates that all signals are given not accordingly to the secret "Signalbuch der Kriegsmarine", but according to the "Internationales Signalbuch". So the "W" is in fact a "R", the "P" a "M" and the "Q" a "N" and "R M N" stands for "Dampfer" or "steamer(s)".
« Letzte Änderung: 06 März 2018, 00:08:12 von Peter K. »
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Re: Bremse in Bergen, Norway 09.04.1940.
« Antwort #2 am: 06 März 2018, 20:51:49 »
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Hello PAUL!
I think you have identified the flags correctly, but ... the "1" in the mast  indicates that all signals are given not accordingly to the secret "Signalbuch der Kriegsmarine", but according to the "Internationales Signalbuch". So the "W" is in fact a "R", the "P" a "M" and the "Q" a "N" and "R M N" stands for "Dampfer" or "steamer(s)"
Hello
Thank you for Your reply and information :-) Makes me wonder why Bremse is using that signal when she is part of a invading force
regards
PS

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Re: Bremse in Bergen, Norway 09.04.1940.
« Antwort #3 am: 06 März 2018, 20:58:25 »
... perhaps to communicate with a foreign steamer?
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Re: Bremse in Bergen, Norway 09.04.1940.
« Antwort #4 am: 06 März 2018, 21:20:20 »
But if so why is she indicating that all signals are given according to the international signalcode?
A foreign steamer isn't supposed to know the secret Kriegsmarine-code!

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Re: Bremse in Bergen, Norway 09.04.1940.
« Antwort #5 am: 06 März 2018, 21:49:50 »
... because the "1" of the Kriegsmarine-code is equal with the usual "Signal- und Antwortwimpel" or "Signalbuchwimpel" of the international code. As I mentioned before this flag has to be placed in the topp according to the Kriegsmarine rules, if a warship was signalling according to the international code. But it was also to be placed on a very visible place as long as the signalling took place according to the international code, if a warship wants to signal with a merchantman.
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Re: Bremse in Bergen, Norway 09.04.1940.
« Antwort #6 am: 07 März 2018, 19:11:53 »
Hello
Thank you both for Your coments  :-)
regards
PS