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Titel: Video Landungsfahrzeuge
Beitrag von: Arjan am 30 Dezember 2017, 09:15:08
It would seem most of the film material was made at Antwerp (Sonderkommando Siebel) :

http://archiv-akh.de/filme/2395#1



Arjan

Titel: Re: Video Landungsfahrzeuge
Beitrag von: kalli am 30 Dezember 2017, 09:46:58
Danke Arjan,
handelt es sich bei der Aufnahme "10:00:21 Text: "B-Fähren auf dem Rangsdorfer See". Foto der Fähre" um den Rangsdorfer See südlich Berlins ?
Titel: Re: Video Landungsfahrzeuge
Beitrag von: didi1 am 30 Dezember 2017, 10:09:27
Moin Arjan,
tolles Video.Danke fürs zeigen.

Gruß
Ditmar
Titel: Re: Video Landungsfahrzeuge
Beitrag von: Aquarius am 30 Dezember 2017, 16:14:34
Hallo Kalli,

ja das war auf dem Rangsdorfer See bei Berlin. Gewissermaßen die ersten Experimente von Herrn Siebel in dieser Angelegenheit. Siehe auch das angehängte Dokument, S. 12. aus dem Anzeiger für Rangsdorf, Groß Machnow und Klein Kienitz vom 11. September 2010.

Aquarius
Titel: Re: Video Landungsfahrzeuge
Beitrag von: desertfox am 30 Dezember 2017, 17:42:15
Hello Arjan

Thank you for the Film :TU:)

Greetings from the Desertfox
Titel: Re: Video Landungsfahrzeuge
Beitrag von: Darius am 30 Dezember 2017, 18:43:18
Hallo Arjan,

stimmt - den schönen FIlm hatten wir schon mal hier:
--/>/> http://www.forum-marinearchiv.de/smf/index.php?action=post;quote=310280;topic=27464.0;last_msg=322852


:MG:

Darius
Titel: Re: Video Landungsfahrzeuge
Beitrag von: MarkusL am 30 Dezember 2017, 18:45:28
Hello Arjan,
many thanks for the link.
BTW final sequence from 10:13:41is of course showing no "Strumgeschuetz" but 7,5 cm Pak 40 auf Geschuetzwagen Lorraine Schlepper (f) SdKfz 135.
A rather rare item in German service with just over a 100 or so converted.
So a real interesting non naval extra showing this tank hunter in action (or mock up action at least).
Regards
Markus
Titel: Re: Video Landungsfahrzeuge
Beitrag von: Arjan am 30 Dezember 2017, 21:11:20
Darius: I  hadn't noticed  Dirk's thread   :embarassed:

Markus: The Sdkfz. 135 is one of my favourite armoured vehicles, it may have belonged to the 65. Infanterie Division which was stationed in Antwerp at some point :

http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gliederungen/Infanteriedivisionen/65ID-R.htm

Concerning the Sonderkommando footage, I'm amazed by the skill of the Stubo crews. It must have been difficult to get the Stubos back onto the ramps of the Transporter without crashing  :-).

Gruss,

Arjan
Titel: Re: Video Landungsfahrzeuge
Beitrag von: MarkusL am 31 Dezember 2017, 00:06:59
Hello Arjan,
interesting the desperate use of all the captured french armor from Chenillette Lorraine to Char B1 as self propelled (mostly anti-tank) artillery.
Weird enough and strange if french
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorraine_37L#/media/File:3046446339_2_15_izzUp8eM.jpg
is right, one made it with WWI s.FH. 13 to Iraq.
Not a naval thread but kind of funny cross-over.
Anyway must admit I didn't noticed Dirks link too and the pictures from Schelde estuary are kind of amazing.
Regards
Markus
Titel: Re: Video Landungsfahrzeuge
Beitrag von: Arjan am 31 Dezember 2017, 09:13:22
As it happens there are currently some interesting pics on Ebay showing some Fähren and the Pionier Werft Bataillon sF in Antwerpen :

https://www.ebay.de/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ssn=crainsmilitaria&item=391952098374&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR7.TRC2.A0.H0.XAntwerpen.TRS0&_nkw=Antwerpen&_sacat=0


edit: This photo is particularly interesting because it shows some Fähren under construction and it also shows pontoon segments on the quay. Again also one of the two bridges that spanned the dock :

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Panorama-Kran-Brucke-im-Hafen-ANTWERPEN-Belgien/391952094767?hash=item5b422a562f:g:nT4AAOSwHNxaRQOW


Gruss,

Arjan
Titel: Re: Video Landungsfahrzeuge
Beitrag von: Darius am 31 Dezember 2017, 12:37:46
Zitat von: Arjan am 31 Dezember 2017, 09:13:22
edit: This photo is particularly interesting because it shows some Fähren under construction and it also shows pontoon segments on the quay. Again also one of the two bridges that spanned the dock :

Oh, I saw this picture today in the morning, but didn´t notice the pontoons.
Thank you Arian  :TU:)


:MG:

Darius
Titel: Re: Video Landungsfahrzeuge
Beitrag von: Arjan am 02 Januar 2018, 09:46:30
I posted some pics of the Fähren assembly location here :

http://www.stiwotforum.nl/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=12242&p=188815#p188815


Gruss,

Arjan
Titel: Re: Video Landungsfahrzeuge
Beitrag von: Arjan am 03 Januar 2018, 17:14:23
I added some new pics and a satellite photo of the present situation. The location in 2018 is still surprisingly easy to recognise :


http://www.stiwotforum.nl/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=12242


Arjan
Titel: Re: Video Landungsfahrzeuge
Beitrag von: Darius am 03 Januar 2018, 17:23:15
Hello Arjan,

very nice. Are there any plans of this area online?


:MG:


Darius
Titel: Re: Video Landungsfahrzeuge
Beitrag von: Arjan am 03 Januar 2018, 17:37:41
Hallo Darius,

Just type in "Albertdok Antwerpen" in google maps and select satellite view. I will make a then and now reconstruction of some more Fähren pics in the port of Antwerp. I have managed to pinpoint the location of at least three more pics.

edit: I've just added my reconstruction of the well-known pic of a Hochseelehrkommando Büssing Fähre :

http://www.stiwotforum.nl/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=12242

Gruss,

Arjan
Titel: Re: Video Landungsfahrzeuge
Beitrag von: Arjan am 06 Januar 2018, 13:18:08
I've added some more pics :

http://www.stiwotforum.nl/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=12242&p=188840#p188840

The penultimate pic posted by Axel here was taken at the Leopolddok :

http://www.forum-marinearchiv.de/smf/index.php/topic,16090.0.html

See this photo of the "verbindingsdok" (topright):

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Panorama-Kran-Brucke-im-Hafen-ANTWERPEN-Belgien/391952094767?hash=item5b422a562f:g:nT4AAOSwHNxaRQOW


Arjan
Titel: Re: Video Landungsfahrzeuge
Beitrag von: Aquarius am 06 Januar 2018, 13:35:13
Hello Arjan,

very nice pictures showing a gone time. Thank you for showing.

Aquarius